george h.w. bush calling dan quayle a coward and repeating the charge many times and then dan quayle saying what an honor to have worked with him. the whole thing is so crazy you don't even know, i can't think of an example. i don't think in american history it's really quite like this. again, from a personal point of view i've known mike pence a long time. i really am astonished at the -- it is one thing -- i don't think he has to sound like me talking about donald trump or denounce him every time he speaks but the greatest honor of his life to have worked for him? >> do you think it is just a lack of courage to speak out? >> yeah, a calculation i guess. and sort of honestly i would say this will sound harsh but i really believe working for the guy for four years, really more than that if you count the campaign, swallowing hard and having to defend him for indefensible things and suck up to him frankly because that is what trump likes, i think that does something to your character. >> and so now trump set to speak this weekend at a republican