that's interested in buying an nfl team that's black. we have worked hard to make sure with have as many candidates possible and put them in a position to succeed. >> howard, let me stay with you. we talk about coach but we don't talk about the disparities in black ownership. sdm >> no. we don't. i'm apologize for appearing like i'm laughing. do the math. nfl is a closed business. we're not even talk about the numbers. it's a closed business. you don't just decide i'm going to go buy a team. you have to be chosen to buy a team and approved to buy team. it's not just a question of money but two, look at the valuations. one of the reasons why people, african-american players and coaches are having such difficulty with this is you look at the popularity of the league. these franchises have grown.