parole. your reaction? >> i'm not surprised at all. we were talking before the judge actually handed down the sentences, and this is exactly what i thought he would do. i think i was surprised to hear him use the words of the mcmichael against them. i think the defense attorneys for both of those defendants thought that they were presenting a case that even though they were convicted that their comments somehow show they did not intend to kill ahmaud arbery, and the judge received that evidence very differently, quoting travis mcmichael saying he wasn't so concerned about ahmaud arbery, he was concerned about his own son, his own life. and greg mcmichael, how he tried to engineer the narrative after ahmaud arbery was shot and killed. that was very stunning and definitely telegraphed for us what the judge was likely to do when he handed down the life without parole sentences. i think everyone knew that william roddie bryan stood