to start evacuating. would have been a show of no confidence in the ghani government. i'm not suggesting that's the right way but it is another option and probably ten other options. why do you present it as these being the only two options. >> there are consequences. take the example. evacuating and moving in c-17s, 6,000 troops and implemented this evacuation in may what would have happened? the threat would have increased at this point in time. >> would have been operating in a capital not overrun by the taliban. >> how do you know that? >> well, the taliban wasn't near kabul at that point. >> like. i think it is easy to play backseat let's look at what could have happened. i think we have been clear on a