i would say it's "hacks" which is a smaller show on hbo max, and it is a very insider-y hollywood show that people who vote for these types of awards may gravitate towards. >> reporter: on the drama side, "the crown" could take the emmy. >> "the crown" is one of the great achievements of television of all time and it has never won the series emmy. >> reporter: real-life drama could factor into the ceremony with the det of michael k. williams who became a star in "the wire." he's nominated though votes were cast before his death. >> he wasn't nominated for playing one of the most iconic characters all time. he's been a great character actor for two decades. the fact that he's never won an emmy is kind of crazy. so people thought he might win for "lovecraft country" this year. >> reporter: the emmys move to cbs, where a football lead-in could lift it above last year's record-low ratings. of course, the emmys will be the first big test for an awards show, to see if they can get