that complicated. and there are people, new people signing up every day. so there has to be better cooperation amongst law enforcement. and there does have to be pressure put on the kremlin to take action against these threat actors. because most of the ransomware activity occurs either in russia or russia-aligned states. and the ransomware actors know that they can get away with it and there's going to be very little chance of them engaged in any punishment or receiving any punishment. >> all right, we'll have to leave it there. thanks so much, alan liska, really appreciate it. seven months after the u.s. presidential election, donald trump is still pushing his claim that he won the 2020 race. the former president was in north carolina saturday where he gave a speech at the state's republican party convention. in his first public appearance in three months, trump claimed his defeat to joe biden washes