kong? >> well, of course it's always -- well, as i said, as a political party, as the government, we are bound to listen to the people. but of course as you might actually understand from the figures, the high turnout rate, of course, a lot of people turn out to vote. there is also a significant rise of people who vote for the pro-establishment camp too. so i think these all kind of opinions need to strike a balance between them, and we need to listen to people's opinion. but of course we can tell the general atmosphere of the city right now. >> right. and hong kong chief executive carrie lam says she will listen to voters. what does that mean exactly, though, when we hear from china that it doesn't really matter what the voters say. hong kong is part of china, and that's the end of it. will lam reach out to