but chief of police already been on the ground. also the chief of the intelligence in this country and tried to negotiate or put things to be done until the her ror and the terror are finished. john? >> just to clarify a few things for us that you said just then, do we know from the police if there are hostages inside that building that police have surrounded because the gunmen are believed to be inside? and did you say that negotiations are under way with the gunman? do i have that right? >> well, we don't know yet because there's no official information coming from the authority, but they are there and the gunmen, a couple of