these 18, some have come out of libya itself. these missiles couldn't have taken down that airplane at 31,000 feet. i think what scares people is if somehow the islamic state got, you know, high altitude missiles, the same one that took the melee airplane down, the buk system which the egyptians have. what's a scary scenario here is if somebody in the islamic state turned an egyptian army unit, a crew, and convinced it to shoot this airplane down. i don't know where those buk missiles there, where they're located in egypt. but that scenario would worry a lot of people and, in particular, not just world aviation but the israelis as well because if the egyptian military lost control of sophisticated weapons like this it would be a real danger to that part of the world. >> meanwhile, there are conflicting reports about what