in london write hope never happens, could be inspired or motivated by ideology. you need the motivation the will and the arms. you can do a great deal of damage. yes, you're correct. this particular strategy is not working for the simple reason because you cannot deal with this particular ideology militarily. you need to mobilize civil society. you need to really bring -- construct a complex political and social strategy to deal with in ideology. take tunis. if you tell me what it needs today, it needs a complex political strategy. it doesn't have capacity. you need to help tunis to have the capacity to employ the people that are unemployed. you're talking 40% unemployment there. that's we you have 3,000 young men fighting with isis in iraq and syria.