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budget vendor hall campaign smart as a judging by got it. >> got it, boss. honor you got this erin burnett outfront week nights at seven odd cnn good morning. >> welcome to cnn this morning it is saturday, june 8, if the officially, we're now into see you in a newsroom. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> i'm amara walker. this is a special edition of cnn newsroom is smerconish is off this week and michael will be back next. so week. >> we start with breaking news this morning, there is rejoicing in the streets of israel today after the idf announced that four hostages who have been in captivity the october 7 attacks have been rescued earlier, the idf spokesman offered these details into their rescue this was a high risk complex mission based on precise intelligence conducted in daylight in two separate buildings. >> deep inside gaza while under fire under fire inside the buildings, under fire on the way hat on the way out from gaza, all forces rescued our hostages israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. there on the went intensive training. they reached their lives to save the lives of all hostages one of those freed noaa are good money would last been seen a being kidnapped by hamas fighters on a motorcycle. now the idf says the four are in good medical condition. they've been transferred to a medical center with us now, a cnn senior international correspondent been wiedemann and see you in an international diplomatic editor, nic robertson, bend, let's start with you and tell us what you've learned about the military option operation that led to the rescue well, this operation was focused victory in the nuseirat camp which is in central gaza and what we've seen was intense military action on the ground and in the air by israeli forces starting around mid-morning. >> now according to the hospital sources, at the al aqsa martyrs hospital, indebted better nearby, at least 107 bodies have been brought to that hospital. there are apparently hundreds of injuries as well. this is the third operation in which israel has been hey, able to rescue hostages in gaza, a total of seven hostages have been released since 7 october it's worth noting that back at the end of november last year, during a weeks-long ceasefire, they were able rather than negotiations and the ceasefire that resulted founded 105 people were released in that instant. now among those released in addition to no autauga mani, who has been in touch with the prime minister and president israel. there's edmodo meter, john 21 recently released from from the army, and two security guards, all of them were at that nova music festival. the other two are andre kosla of 27 it's a russian, is rarely national and shlomo xiv, 40 also a security guard there. obviously in israel, this is being met with much jubilation but the scenes from the hospitals in gaza are really quite disturbing. blood on the floor of hospitals that are full to capacity city. the morgues full as well. now we've heard from semi obvious about zadie speaking to reuters. he's a spokesman for hamas, saying that the freeing of the hostages is a sign of failure not an achievement. that this is all they could be achieved after nine months of war. victor all right, and let's go to nick now. >> and the reaction from the hostage and missing families forum has been obviously jew blend. they're calling this a miraculous, triumphant. it comes as a key official and the israeli government has now posted poland and announcement where he was expected to announce that he was drawing from the war cabinet. >> first, what does this rescue mean in terms of getting to a ceasefire deal, nick and two, do you think will hear from benny gantz anytime soon yeah, it was benny gantz who was expected to speak this afternoon a couple of days ago, is expected to announce it who withdraw from the war cabinet, which had the sort of implicit threat that because he was before october 7, principle opposition to prime minister netanyahu, that this could bring down the war cabinet and therefore you know, just sort of trigger over the near period elections in israel. but i think over the past 48 hours prior to the hostage release, it had become clear that he was shifting away from that position, perhaps under pressure from from us officials not to pull out of that cabinet. at this time, whatever is motivation not clear, but it does seem that the release of these four hostages is going to strengthen prime minister netanyahu's hand because his message has always been, we put the hostages first. we continue to fight. we go into release them. the only way to do it is through military pressure. so this reinforces the prime minister's his hand. so what does that do the hostage negotiations. i think it just pushes them further down the road because that's what we've seen happen before. and i think when you look at it from the palestinian perspective inside gaza has been as saying that the death toll in the area where this whether it appears this rescue mission took place is high and we saw that in january this year when, when a couple of other hostages were released and the idf later explain the dynamic of that overnight rescue, and that was that they got on the location pretty quickly got into the room, got into a firefight with the gods. and then of course, hamas was alerted. and the way that the idf dealt, dealt with that to be to be able to extract themselves in the hostages was the laid down a huge amount of fire in the area, and that result salted and again, then back then, dozens upon dozens of civilian casualties in the vicinity as the idf sort of fought its way out of the situation. so from a palestinian perspective, the consequences of a hostage recovery mission, rescue and recovery mission like this is again, going to push the dynamic of hostage negotiations away from the table because it is going to inflame passions. so i think the short answer is it makes it harder to achieve a ceasefire deal right now, at least, yeah, that's an interesting element. and just as you were are talking, nick, i got an alert in from our team it said that at least 107 people have been killed as a result of the israeli military operation in central gaza, i near where this operation took place. according to a spokesperson at the al-aqsa but martyrs hospital i wonder as the secretary of state, antony blinken is headed back to the region in the next few days trying to push for this ceasefire deal what work can he do if in israel? netanyahu is emboldened because four hostages are home and hamas is now reacting to the more than 100 deaths as a result of the operation that freed those hostages? >> i think the ground reality is this was always a very, very difficult environment, diplomatic environment for secretary state antony blinken to engage in, and it's had very little traction with this israeli government, with all the things has been talking about, whether it's additional humanitarian aid, whether it's the pressure to get hostage negotiation and ceasefire is going sooner and we've also seen the secretary postpone or delay because of events in the region and although there's no indication that is going to delay right now this will make his job harder. but the underlying reasons that he wants access to to get the hostages freed to end the war, to end the suffering of the palestinians to improve the situation, to keep onside, united states regional partners like saudi arabia, who say that they are ready to support a ceasefire if it leads to a two-state solution, if there's a concrete path of a two-state solution, of course, the united states need these needs, these allies and partners in the region because they will be part of the fabric, then supports a reconstruction effort inside of, inside of gaza which is gonna be hugely needed and may take more than a decade or even decades to complete so it's very complex and part of what secretary of state antony blinken needs to do is just try to keep everyone as close to the table as possible. the last thing he needs as one of his partners in all of this to just throw up their hands and say, okay, a line has been crossed that doesn't that's not on the cards, but this is what is playing against and bed wiedemann, let's bring you back in and let's stay on. this conversation about what this means for a potential ceasefire deal. as you heard, secretary of state antony thinking it will be traveling back to the region and he'll be meeting with officials in israel on monday. uh, what are you expecting in terms of the palestinian reaction and how this will all all play out, as, as us secretary of state is in the region trying to get some kind of deal done well, there seems to be so much confusion at this point about where each side stands on a hostage deal on some sort of deal to release the hostages, get a ceasefire. >> i think the bra hard lines. they're talking to both sides seem to agree that a 42 day or six-week period in which the elderly women the sec the injured, should be released, but it's really the endgame that seems to be the problem president prime minister netanyahu is insisting in his ultimate goal is the destruction of hamas. hamas, however, wants to make sure that when the fighting finally comes to an end, that they will still be able to exist and operate. so we have a basic contradiction between the two sides. however, obviously, i think the united states is eager just to bring this war to an end. it has cost president biden politically among his base. it is sort of an open wound i've covered basically every war between israel and its neighbors. and those controls in the occupied territories. now, for decades, but this is by far the longest war, the war that is generated more anger, bitterness and division, and certainly for the united states. now that we are in the ninth month of this war with a huge death toll and disruption on in every sense really the united states needs to push as hard as possible to finally bring this war to an end. victor, amara. >> then we'd have been in beirut. nic robertson in london. thank you very much. ian bremmer is president of the eurasia group group. he is with us now. e and good morning to you so let's start here with what this rescue operation means for benjamin netanyahu first on the ceasefire deal, because there was some reporting that the israelis agreed to it. but then there were reports that netanyahu said there were gaps between what biden had proposed and what he will agree to what now for the ceasefire deal, the proposal that's on the table. >> look, obviously it's a huge win when you've had seven months plus of these hostages being held and no one knowing how many of them were alive, nobody knowing what kind of health conditions therein not just the visuals of seeing these four freed by israel, but also being able to talk to them, being able to hear their experiences. i mean, this is just a catharsis for trauma that the israeli people have collectively been through. and of course, not just not yeah, i hope that the entire war cabinet benefits from that. >> but negotiating with hamas, a breakthrough on this when you have two governments, one terrorist organization and the israeli government that completely disagree on outcomes has been incredibly hard two square. >> i mean, every other country in the world is looking for a ceasefire. it's looking for an end to the fighting and it's looking for all of the hostages to be released. hamas doesn't support that unless they find a way to continue to survive. and the israelis, and not just the prime minister, but the entire israeli population, wants to see hamas destroyed. there's really no way to square that. and especially if you're the israeli prime minister looking at american elections coming up in just a few months, looking at the ability to address a joint session of congress in just a few weeks, even though biden's nine i'm very interested in that. he thinks he'll do much better if biden is out. and i suspect that's true. and so right now, if you're the israeli prime minister, you are playing for time and you're not particularly interested in coming to a short or a long-term deal with hamas and gun so just as do with speaking and we saw a president biden and president macron sitting down for what's been described as a working lunch, we were not expecting them to make any remarks. >> it looks like lunch hadn't even been served. they were sitting there placemats and utensils. so this was just a spray at the beginning of what we're told will be a discussion over a meal before the events this evening at the state dinner at the lu zai palace. here's that video again, we react really quickly. thank you. control room of the two men talking her, told we can't hear anything that they're talking about because of the distance but the meetings continue in paris and back to you and benny guns. he was expected to announce today at a news conference his departure because he gave netanyahu prime minister netanyahu and ultimatum that he wanted to hear a plan for the release of the hostages. he wanted a plan for gaza postwar, and he did not get those that was postponed because of the release today of these hostages are the rescue i should say. do you think that this puts off that departure for any more than to give these these people in these families, their moment or is it likely that it'll stay any longer? >> i don't think he's going to stay much longer we now have not yahoo pushing very hard and the far-right to open a second front in the north with hezbollah as hezbollah much more powerful than hamas continues to show rockets down on northern israel and 100,000 israeli citizens continue to be evacuated from their homes, from their schools. the equivalent of 4 million americans imagine if after 911, the entire state of connecticut or louisiana were evacuated, it would be all we're talking about. so that is a significant push gantz continues to have as a red line in the formation of some kind of plan for governance of the palestinians after the war is over in gaza, netanyahu has been completely uninterested in accepting that there are really some significant gaps between these two that are also pretty unbridgeable. i expect gantz's going to be out sooner later probably sooner, but that doesn't bring down the government in israel. the government is the likud party, not you and the far right allies. and there, what would bring down the government would be if there were a breakthrough deal as biden had announced with hamas, what would bring down the government would be accepting a two-state solution. what would bring down the government would, would be a willingness to engage on the terms that the rest of the world is trying to get the israelis to move towards, to have some peace and stability after months and months let's of war. that's not going to happen. so i fear, and by the way, since gantz has made this announcement, this ultimatum, we've seen the first poll since october 7 that show that not in yahoo is once again more popular than gantz among the israeli population. so gantz can go and we'll see who replaces them and we'll see what the new war cabinet will look like. but i suspect it's not going to make much of a difference for this israeli government. and ultimately, they are the ones that call the shots for israel's future. >> and the bremmer. thank you very much. we'll continue to see happens the rescue of these four hostages. thanks for your time and we will of course, de, on breaking news and france and israel also this morning, some democrats are angry with president biden over policy shift on the southern border. >> still to come the crackdown on asylum seekers and how the white house is looking to mend fences with its allies 19th cnn celebrated juneteenth, with special performances by john legend, eddie lewbel, smokey robinson. we still have a 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budget vendor hall campaign smart as a judging by got it. >> got it, boss. honor you got this erin burnett outfront week nights at seven odd cnn good morning. >> welcome to cnn this morning it is saturday, june 8, if the officially, we're now into see you in a newsroom. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> i'm amara walker. this is a special edition of cnn newsroom is smerconish is off this week and michael will be back next. so week. >> we start with breaking news this morning, there is rejoicing in the streets of israel today after the idf announced that four hostages who have been in captivity the october 7 attacks have been rescued earlier, the idf spokesman offered these details into their rescue this was a high risk complex mission based on precise intelligence conducted in daylight in two separate buildings. >> deep inside gaza while under fire under fire inside the buildings, under fire on the way hat on the way out from gaza, all forces rescued our hostages israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. there on the went intensive training. they reached their lives to save the lives of all hostages one of those freed noaa are good money would last been seen a being kidnapped by hamas fighters on a motorcycle. now the idf says the four are in good medical condition. they've been transferred to a medical center with us now, a cnn senior international correspondent been wiedemann and see you in an international diplomatic editor, nic robertson, bend, let's start with you and tell us what you've learned about the military option operation that led to the rescue well, this operation was focused victory in the nuseirat camp which is in central gaza and what we've seen was intense military action on the ground and in the air by israeli forces starting around mid-morning. >> now according to the hospital sources, at the al aqsa martyrs hospital, indebted better nearby, at least 107 bodies have been brought to that hospital. there are apparently hundreds of injuries as well. this is the third operation in which israel has been hey, able to rescue hostages in gaza, a total of seven hostages have been released since 7 october it's worth noting that back at the end of november last year, during a weeks-long ceasefire, they were able rather than negotiations and the ceasefire that resulted founded 105 people were released in that instant. now among those released in addition to no autauga mani, who has been in touch with the prime minister and president israel. there's edmodo meter, john 21 recently released from from the army, and two security guards, all of them were at that nova music festival. the other two are andre kosla of 27 it's a russian, is rarely national and shlomo xiv, 40 also a security guard there. obviously in israel, this is being met with much jubilation but the scenes from the hospitals in gaza are really quite disturbing. blood on the floor of hospitals that are full to capacity city. the morgues full as well. now we've heard from semi obvious about zadie speaking to reuters. he's a spokesman for hamas, saying that the freeing of the hostages is a sign of failure not an achievement. that this is all they could be achieved after nine months of war. victor all right, and let's go to nick now. >> and the reaction from the hostage and missing families forum has been obviously jew blend. they're calling this a miraculous, triumphant. it comes as a key official and the israeli government has now posted poland and announcement where he was expected to announce that he was drawing from the war cabinet. >> first, what does this rescue mean in terms of getting to a ceasefire deal, nick and two, do you think will hear from benny gantz anytime soon yeah, it was benny gantz who was expected to speak this afternoon a couple of days ago, is expected to announce it who withdraw from the war cabinet, which had the sort of implicit threat that because he was before october 7, principle opposition to prime minister netanyahu, that this could bring down the war cabinet and therefore you know, just sort of trigger over the near period elections in israel. but i think over the past 48 hours prior to the hostage release, it had become clear that he was shifting away from that position, perhaps under pressure from from us officials not to pull out of that cabinet. at this time, whatever is motivation not clear, but it does seem that the release of these four hostages is going to strengthen prime minister netanyahu's hand because his message has always been, we put the hostages first. we continue to fight. we go into release them. the only way to do it is through military pressure. so this reinforces the prime minister's his hand. so what does that do the hostage negotiations. i think it just pushes them further down the road because that's what we've seen happen before. and i think when you look at it from the palestinian perspective inside gaza has been as saying that the death toll in the area where this whether it appears this rescue mission took place is high and we saw that in january this year when, when a couple of other hostages were released and the idf later explain the dynamic of that overnight rescue, and that was that they got on the location pretty quickly got into the room, got into a firefight with the gods. and then of course, hamas was alerted. and the way that the idf dealt, dealt with that to be to be able to extract themselves in the hostages was the laid down a huge amount of fire in the area, and that result salted and again, then back then, dozens upon dozens of civilian casualties in the vicinity as the idf sort of fought its way out of the situation. so from a palestinian perspective, the consequences of a hostage recovery mission, rescue and recovery mission like this is again, going to push the dynamic of hostage negotiations away from the table because it is going to inflame passions. so i think the short answer is it makes it harder to achieve a ceasefire deal right now, at least, yeah, that's an interesting element. and just as you were are talking, nick, i got an alert in from our team it said that at least 107 people have been killed as a result of the israeli military operation in central gaza, i near where this operation took place. according to a spokesperson at the al-aqsa but martyrs hospital i wonder as the secretary of state, antony blinken is headed back to the region in the next few days trying to push for this ceasefire deal what work can he do if in israel? netanyahu is emboldened because four hostages are home and hamas is now reacting to the more than 100 deaths as a result of the operation that freed those hostages? >> i think the ground reality is this was always a very, very difficult environment, diplomatic environment for secretary state antony blinken to engage in, and it's had very little traction with this israeli government, with all the things has been talking about, whether it's additional humanitarian aid, whether it's the pressure to get hostage negotiation and ceasefire is going sooner and we've also seen the secretary postpone or delay because of events in the region and although there's no indication that is going to delay right now this will make his job harder. but the underlying reasons that he wants access to to get the hostages freed to end the war, to end the suffering of the palestinians to improve the situation, to keep onside, united states regional partners like saudi arabia, who say that they are ready to support a ceasefire if it leads to a two-state solution, if there's a concrete path of a two-state solution, of course, the united states need these needs, these allies and partners in the region because they will be part of the fabric, then supports a reconstruction effort inside of, inside of gaza which is gonna be hugely needed and may take more than a decade or even decades to complete so it's very complex and part of what secretary of state antony blinken needs to do is just try to keep everyone as close to the table as possible. the last thing he needs as one of his partners in all of this to just throw up their hands and say, okay, a line has been crossed that doesn't that's not on the cards, but this is what is playing against and bed wiedemann, let's bring you back in and let's stay on. this conversation about what this means for a potential ceasefire deal. as you heard, secretary of state antony thinking it will be traveling back to the region and he'll be meeting with officials in israel on monday. uh, what are you expecting in terms of the palestinian reaction and how this will all all play out, as, as us secretary of state is in the region trying to get some kind of deal done well, there seems to be so much confusion at this point about where each side stands on a hostage deal on some sort of deal to release the hostages, get a ceasefire. >> i think the bra hard lines. they're talking to both sides seem to agree that a 42 day or six-week period in which the elderly women the sec the injured, should be released, but it's really the endgame that seems to be the problem president prime minister netanyahu is insisting in his ultimate goal is the destruction of hamas. hamas, however, wants to make sure that when the fighting finally comes to an end, that they will still be able to exist and operate. so we have a basic contradiction between the two sides. however, obviously, i think the united states is eager just to bring this war to an end. it has cost president biden politically among his base. it is sort of an open wound i've covered basically every war between israel and its neighbors. and those controls in the occupied territories. now, for decades, but this is by far the longest war, the war that is generated more anger, bitterness and division, and certainly for the united states. now that we are in the ninth month of this war with a huge death toll and disruption on in every sense really the united states needs to push as hard as possible to finally bring this war to an end. victor, amara. >> then we'd have been in beirut. nic robertson in london. thank you very much. ian bremmer is president of the eurasia group group. he is with us now. e and good morning to you so let's start here with what this rescue operation means for benjamin netanyahu first on the ceasefire deal, because there was some reporting that the israelis agreed to it. but then there were reports that netanyahu said there were gaps between what biden had proposed and what he will agree to what now for the ceasefire deal, the proposal that's on the table. >> look, obviously it's a huge win when you've had seven months plus of these hostages being held and no one knowing how many of them were alive, nobody knowing what kind of health conditions therein not just the visuals of seeing these four freed by israel, but also being able to talk to them, being able to hear their experiences. i mean, this is just a catharsis for trauma that the israeli people have collectively been through. and of course, not just not yeah, i hope that the entire war cabinet benefits from that. >> but negotiating with hamas, a breakthrough on this when you have two governments, one terrorist organization and the israeli government that completely disagree on outcomes has been incredibly hard two square. >> i mean, every other country in the world is looking for a ceasefire. it's looking for an end to the fighting and it's looking for all of the hostages to be released. hamas doesn't support that unless they find a way to continue to survive. and the israelis, and not just the prime minister, but the entire israeli population, wants to see hamas destroyed. there's really no way to square that. and especially if you're the israeli prime minister looking at american elections coming up in just a few months, looking at the ability to address a joint session of congress in just a few weeks, even though biden's nine i'm very interested in that. he thinks he'll do much better if biden is out. and i suspect that's true. and so right now, if you're the israeli prime minister, you are playing for time and you're not particularly interested in coming to a short or a long-term deal with hamas and gun so just as do with speaking and we saw a president biden and president macron sitting down for what's been described as a working lunch, we were not expecting them to make any remarks. >> it looks like lunch hadn't even been served. they were sitting there placemats and utensils. so this was just a spray at the beginning of what we're told will be a discussion over a meal before the events this evening at the state dinner at the lu zai palace. here's that video again, we react really quickly. thank you. control room of the two men talking her, told we can't hear anything that they're talking about because of the distance but the meetings continue in paris and back to you and benny guns. he was expected to announce today at a news conference his departure because he gave netanyahu prime minister netanyahu and ultimatum that he wanted to hear a plan for the release of the hostages. he wanted a plan for gaza postwar, and he did not get those that was postponed because of the release today of these hostages are the rescue i should say. do you think that this puts off that departure for any more than to give these these people in these families, their moment or is it likely that it'll stay any longer? >> i don't think he's going to stay much longer we now have not yahoo pushing very hard and the far-right to open a second front in the north with hezbollah as hezbollah much more powerful than hamas continues to show rockets down on northern israel and 100,000 israeli citizens continue to be evacuated from their homes, from their schools. the equivalent of 4 million americans imagine if after 911, the entire state of connecticut or louisiana were evacuated, it would be all we're talking about. so that is a significant push gantz continues to have as a red line in the formation of some kind of plan for governance of the palestinians after the war is over in gaza, netanyahu has been completely uninterested in accepting that there are really some significant gaps between these two that are also pretty unbridgeable. i expect gantz's going to be out sooner later probably sooner, but that doesn't bring down the government in israel. the government is the likud party, not you and the far right allies. and there, what would bring down the government would be if there were a breakthrough deal as biden had announced with hamas, what would bring down the government would be accepting a two-state solution. what would bring down the government would, would be a willingness to engage on the terms that the rest of the world is trying to get the israelis to move towards, to have some peace and stability after months and months let's of war. that's not going to happen. so i fear, and by the way, since gantz has made this announcement, this ultimatum, we've seen the first poll since october 7 that show that not in yahoo is once again more popular than gantz among the israeli population. so gantz can go and we'll see who replaces them and we'll see what the new war cabinet will look like. but i suspect it's not going to make much of a difference for this israeli government. and ultimately, they are the ones that call the shots for israel's future. >> and the bremmer. thank you very much. we'll continue to see happens the rescue of these four hostages. thanks for your time and we will of course, de, on breaking news and france and israel also this morning, some democrats are angry with president biden over policy shift on the southern border. >> still to come the crackdown on asylum seekers and how the white house is looking to mend fences with its allies 19th cnn celebrated juneteenth, with special performances by john legend, eddie lewbel, smokey robinson. we still have a 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