calls from the administration in the coming days we should expect that it will happen in the wake of this as well. >> i think you can almost be certain. aaron mcpike, thank you very much. sflimplgt we're joined by les, a triple-7 captain and a contributing editor of "flying magazine" and we'll bring in former pilot alan rosensh ein from sussex england. you've flown the same flight path that 8501 has flown, so what can you tell bus that particular airspace? >> well, what we're talking about here is the wet -- at this time of year there can be a lot of -- well thunderstorms and vertical activities as we call it. those are predominantly associated with turbulence icing, and hail. now, the problem about the sort of thunderstorms you get in the