are going to get shot at and perhaps civilians might get harmed. it took a lot of planning to carry out this operation. we are told this is something they have been trying to do and planning to do for several months. they even had a chance last october when the u.s. captured another terrorist, al libi, who was involved in the 1998 embassy bombing case, and at that time, they thought they had a chance to get abu khattalah as well and that didn't prove to be the case. they finally did get an opportunity today -- i'm sorry, over the weekend, and they grabbed him. >> okay. evan, stand by. arwa, let me go to you. i watched your whole piece from last year and the fact that you tracked this man down, ahmed abu khattalah and sat with him in this cafe. he took at issue your tone, it sounded like his fear of talking to u.s. officials would be that it would be more of an