it best when he said for people that are surprised, i'm surprised that you're surprised. he has a long history dealing with his real estate. certainly was a well publicized lawsuit. it's not a real surprised if you follow history. >> what's with local chapter of naacp? >> i think what you have there is people have somewhat put aside what his history is. this is the second time that they were going to honor him for humanitarian efforts and i think what you find, which is misleading, is every week there's a full-page ad in l.a. sentinel that shows all of the things that he's contributing to which i think puts that on the forefront and people aren't looking at the larger issue of his behavior and his ongoing debates with minorities about his real estate. >> how can you overlook those things if you're the naacp? >> you know, i'm just going to cut to the chase. money. money covers a multitude of