getting information dribs and drabs, and we've had lots of information that we were told, no, there's no information. now there is information. what you have to understand is there's no central repository. a lot of people think after all the snowden release, there's some big government repository of all the cell phone data. what the investigators in malaysia would have had to have done is try to identify passengers' cell phones, then go to different cell phone providers, get the records of their cell phones, and then also from the towers where they know they got pings, get the records of what cell phones went there. so it's a pretty big investigative effort. and i just am suspecting maybe they haven't done that entire investigative effort. it's not a -- there's not a one stop shopping to get cell phone call records. you have to do a lot of gum shoeing, and it takes a bit of time. >> okay. what are we now, five, six weeks into this? hopefully they're looking into that. thank you both so much for your expertise.