television coverage, it would be a slam dunk and the guy would be gone for life. if you were in the courtroom and followed it moment by moment without any gaps, it may not be as simple and that's why i want to bring you into the jury room for a moment. these people were told by a judge, by law, they have to give him from the outset the presumption of innocence. let's start there. the presumption of innocence. so they are building from there. and to get from the presumption of innocence to first-degree murder and put him away for life is a very, very difficult process for nib. if anyone is outraged or angry at this jury for dead locking, if they are on that one charge after all is said and done, we all have to take a deep breath and remember if you're on a jury and you stare at somebody across the courtroom for an extended period of time, it all becomes far less of a character on television and a narrative where a lot of opinionated people have