their testimony saying, hey, listen, i don't like that thug music. what is the impact on this trial and what do you think he meant by that? did he mean the n-word? >> he absolutely meant the n-word. you're right, don, you were way in front of this story. and the use of racially quoted terms like thug allow people to prosecute the kind of rationalized case by other means. you don't have to say the n-word or say black, you just say thug music and everyone knows the deep encoding that's inside of that word. when he says i heard thug music, he meant black music and dangerous music. they are arguing as if thinking somebody playing black music makes them worthy of lethal force. >> is it black music? i don't know, because i think if the research is true or that you hear white kids listen to rap and hip-hop way more than black kids, then wouldn't it be white music, too, or the music of youth? >> no. in fact, those numbers are a little skewed.