it is hopeful that we won't see something like this in the future. unfortunately, i think we will. >> all right. avery, richard, thanks so much for your input. and of course, thank you for all the incredible work that you do every weekend, all year long, with your insight, with your expertise, with your intelligence and opening our eyes to fascinating cases and opening our eyes to looking at cases different ways. thanks so much for all that you bring. >> thank you. >> better things coming up for 2014, fredricka. >> see you, fred. >> we look forward to that. thank you so much and mahalo, as well, to our hawaiian friends. thank you, gentlemen, appreciate it. it has been two years. count them, two years since osama bin laden was killed. some call his death a defeat for al qaeda. but the terror may be growing.