federal judge in washington looking at the same facts had a different opinion. judge richard leon said the program violates our privacy and is likely unconstitutional. the extent of the nsa's program is revealed in classified leaks by former contractor edward snowden. so in the end, what does this all mean for you and who gets the ultimate say? my legal guys join me now to answer some of that. avery friedman joining us from cleveland. good to see you. >> hi, fredricka. >> and richard herman in new york joining us from hawaii. oh, aloha. just rub it in, why don't ya? all right. so avery, you first, does one federal judge's ruling kind of supersede what the other one said? >> no, it does not. the amazing thing about these decisions, this is a constitutional lollapalooza and so exciting. one federal judge in washington says it violates the