we have to implement this new law because it's going to be good for all other health conditions to treat the brain as a health issue. >> laws are one thing, congressman, but you know very well what has been pervasive in this conversation today is the issue of stigma. saying yes, i need help. you yourself have been quoted as saying these aren't just medical issues. these are civil rights issues. what needs to happen in our society to stop this ignorance, this discrimination. >> like you pointed out, this is kind of a civil rights place. we need to get the law in place. we can outlaw discremination, but you can't outlaw bigotry in people's hearts. that's going to be a tougher challenge. your earlier conversation with your medical editor clearly identified even two thirds with insurance don't avail themselves of it for a mental health condition because of the shame