we're a silicon valley company and have built this the last 15 years. i'm not surprised. we saw 20 million americans last year come to us. to give you a flavor for the kind of interest that there is in health insurance and getting coverage. so i wouldn't be surprised over the next several days and weeks -- we do see some turbulence and things don't run as smoothly as some would like to see them run. >> according to the wall street journal, there have been technical challenges. put simply, people in d.c. could not calculate tax break money to help pay for their insurance plans. are they continuing today? >> well, that's a great question. whether they're continuing at the moment, i don't know. but, you know, it's very complex to go into the treasury department. >> that's kind of scary when you say you don't know. >> i don't know. i don't run the government site. we're a private sector company and we've been doing this for years and years. i can tell you with us it works and it works quite smoothly.