when put in situations like this because clearly she want todaed save her own life whether she knew she was acting to save her own life. >> sure. i think we need to follow the example of the riders. you have to follow your instinct. if something is wrong, you need to put distance between yourself and whatever it is that makes you feel wrong and go to an adult. but remember, you can't read too much in the fact she turned away and didn't want to engage with these people because remember, jaycee dugard and elizabeth smart and shawn hornbeck initially denied. they're so under the thumb of these characters that sometimes it takes a while to extract themselves. >> marc klass, wendy walsh, still e stick around. we're going to play more of this press conference and get your take and also we're awaiting the reunion of this young lady with her father. we're back in a moment. weekdays are for rising to the challenge.