>> yes i did because michael never told them what his job was and they were shocked -- they were little kids, when they were at the 9/10 show. and he called me and was laughing about it. and when they got back they said so you are a big star, huh. they were saying that. >> and back with us now our legal team, defense attorney and former federal prosecutor faith jenkins. i want to talk with you. let's talk about the sound we just heard. do you think it is an effective approach by the jackson lawyers to personalize the family in court? >> not only is it effective but it is necessary in the case. you are talking about an icon that many people in the public believed they knew. he was a part of their every day lives so ethe plaintiffs want to put his family to show he is not just an icon but also a son.