person, he said he's someone wearing a hoodie and the emergency caller said, can you tell race? he said, i think black. i mean, there's absolutely nothing to do with this. this is being fanned by people like jesse jackson or charlie rangel or at times barack obama by saying trayvon martin looked like the son i never had. the justice department under attorney general holder saying we're going to look into this. it's being fanned, but the facts of the case as the jury decided them, as the prosecution pursued the case, no one has ever said race came into it. >> what is it about the case, when you look at the folks on the street, listen, we have this conversation, a lot of people on both sides i think saw the headlines initially, had a preconceived notion going into t. didn't get into the weeds and follow this trial and came out believing what they believed initially. are you following me? i feel like there is clearly -- it's not always simmering. there is such anger, rage, frustration in this country. if you look at either trayvon martin or george zimmerman, they