immediate reaction was, that's george screaming for help. >> did you want to believe it was trayvon martin? >> there wasn't a matter of believing or wants to believe who it was. i recognize it to be george's voice. >> because you never haermd yell before, have you not? >> no. >> you never heard him scream? no. >> so you don't know what he sound like screaming? >> no the choice i heard was george zimmerman's. >> have you ever heard trayvon martin's voice? >> no, i have not. >> you never heard him scream? >> no, i have not. >> so you have no idea how he sounds like when he skrems? >> no, i have not. >> thank you, judge. >> any redirect? >> very, very brief, your honor. >> you understand now he was actually, mr. zimmerman was out of state just shortly after the shooting, correct? >> yes. >> that calls for speculation.