be embarrassing, and what the state was trying to get in was their witness who ended up having a financial vested interest in the method that he used because he gets a commission on it, but basically needs 16 seconds of tape, and all they had was 7 seconds. so he thought, well agr, i'll j loop it. he loond ped it twice to get a larger segment. it would be like if you needed 16 seconds and you had a 1 second voice could do you that 16 times to get to your voice. he looped it so it was 14 seconds. there's just no other scientist in the community which said that that was an appropriate way to do it. and it didn't satisfy any skin ticklely acceptable standards. and accordingly, i think the judge, which is what we were saying previously, made the correct legal ruling. it's simply not scientifically acceptable. >> this one last point that i want to ask, so, you know, they can still play the tape.