the lesson of 9/11 was as we saw the last two weeks, state and local are the first responders, the ones who will save lives. they need to know what might be coming down the pike. >> juliette, the idea that not only tamerlan put on the list, but the mom put on the list, how often does that happen so there wasn't be an official alert. it seems if 500,000 or more people on the list, spread out across the country, i can't imagine that in a typical situation there wouldn't be cause to inform, hey, we just put -- >> son and mother. >> this guy in cambridge, we put him. extimist, russians worried about him. his mom on the list too. checking them out. >> right. the numbers i'm looking for, i would love to know right now, are how many people did the russians say look at once if not twice? we've been debating this. common for russians to do or not? we need that number. secondly, how often are mother and son on the list and third