a year of each other at a time when the west, in general, and conservativism inspect particular seemed to be on the defensive, and they recognized each other as soul mates in that fight. >> and it's interesting that margaret thatcher and ronald rairg continue to this day to be symbols for the conservative party in this country for conservative republicans. what draws -- well, we know ronald reagan, right? you know, smaller government less powerful labor unions. margaret thatcher was for all of those things. >> absolutely. they stood for many of the same things as ronald reagan stood for in the united states. of course, she worked in a different country in a different system, but nonetheless, you could see the lessons transferring from one country to the other. they both opposed the soviet union. they both fought the cold war. they both recognized gorbachev as a man, as lady thatcher said, that we could do business with. at home they wanted smaller government, lower taxation, and greater liberty for the individual, and, of course, they recognized each other as friends