battle on our hands with north korea. >> exactly. very good point to make. will? >> right. i would love to laugh along with dennis rodman. he has been good at reminding us that whatever we're paying attention to, for example, sports and basketball, it's entertainment, but not on this. this is serious. he was embarrassing yesterday. george stephanopoulos addressed it as it should be, as a serious topic, talking about prison camps. and dennis rodman was embarrassing. he doesn't know what he's talking about. he's over there talking to kim jong-un, who he described as a good guy. >> cnn contributors l.z. granderson and will cain, thanks for being with us. it was on here, the threat talked about all over washington, gene sperling with longtime washington reporter bob woodward. woodward said he was threatened on his recent reporting on the spending cuts. however, we need to clarify, he did not name sperling. sperling finally responded to cnn's candy crowley. >> bob and i have known each