boy in a locker room shower. that's all he was required to do under pennsylvania law. tell the people in charge and let them decide whether to contact police. well, governor tom corbitt told nbc that just wasn't good enough. he says, "by law someone in paterno's position should have to call the cops himself." >> should the law be changed? absolutely. i know that members of both party, republican and democrat, have already introduced measures to make that change. >> well, corbett is on the penn state board of trustees which fired paterno this week. he also began the investigation against jerry sandusky when he was state attorney general. sandusky is accused of sexually abusing eight boys over a 15-year period. right now, let's bring in sarah ganum. she's a crime reporter for the "patriot news" in harrisburg. she's at the penn state campus. you have been on this story for years. when it broke, you came on and broke it down and explained it to our viewers. tell us about this report that sandusky and one of the university's big wigs, who was fired over this, are still receiving money from the university? >> well, basically, as part of their pension program, this is money that they paid in, kind of like a 401(k). they're state employees, because this is a partly state university. so this is the money that they paid in and their employer paid in over the time that they were employees with penn state university, and they are still receiving that pension. the rules for that pension are that the money can be withdrawn and held from them if they are convicted of certain crimes. but there are -- there's -- it's semantics, you know, because it has to do with whether the crimes were committed while they were employees or after they were employees. it also has to do with the severity of the crimes committed. so it still kind of remains to be seen if they're going to get to keep that money or keep receiving those monthly checks. >> this is also very interesting as well, that i'm reading here. i want you to tell us what you're hearing about the judge who set sandusky's unsecured bail, specifically, that she is or may have been a volunteer for sandusky's second mile program. the same program through which he allegedly met all these victims. >> that information is coming from a biography of this judge that's up on a website for a law firm that she used to work for, before she was elected to this district judge post. it's not clear, though, if she's still a volunteer at this point. it's a sunday, we haven't been able to reach her, or if she stopped volunteering and cut those affiliations once she became a judge. which often happens. so it's not clear at this point if she's still a volunteer, but we do know that at one point, she was a second mile volunteer and that is the charity that jerry sandusky began in 1977. >> very interesting. so, um, i want to ask you now about why people didn't -- let's talk about the media now. if you noticed, when sandusky was taken into custody, and we noticed this when we were about to go on and report the story. we said, is there a video? and then we got the video, sarah. and no one is asking sandusky any questions. why did you do it? what happened? nothing. and i had a reporter on, a sports cover who's been covering it for 30 years, and he said, yeah, we heard rumors, and i'm sure you heard them as well -- i'm not talking about you -- but no one went to the point of trying to report these stories or try to find any information about jerry sandusky. just, why didn't anyone -- i think the video of him going into custody and no one asking him a word speaks volumes. >> well, i think, you know, over -- the allegations are that it happened over several years. but you have to remember that we are knowing -- this is information we're finding out now. victims weren't comes forward and being vocal about this for a number of years. yes, there were a lot of missed opportunities and we know that now, but it wasn't something that was necessarily a public information -- you know as well as anybody, when you're a reporter, you've got to have the facts. you can't report based on rumors. and, unfortunately, we really didn't have solid facts until this year. that was when we felt comfortable going with the story. and that's when we went with the story. >> yeah. mostly, i think i'm talking about the people -- the people who reported on sports. i'm not talking about the general news people. i think in the sports world, there were rumors about these situations, the people in the news, it may be quite deferent, sarah. that's why i ask that question. even if a neighbor on the the street, if i had heard that about one of my neighbors on the street, i would have done my own investigating and i think most neighbors would have as well, even if you're not a journalist. that's why i ask that question. thank you, sarah. we'll be getting back to you. let's move on and talk about the occupy movement. crime, drugs, even some deaths. many cities are getting fed up with the occupy movement. one of the most contested area is a portland, oregon. just a short time ago, i spoke with one of the protesters and the mayor about the police action. >> we worked really hard to keep the peace here in portland. this is our fourth or fifth police action. there has not been any serious injuries. we've not used tear gas. we've not used rubber bullets or those kinds of things. we work really hard, even in passionate moments like you're seeing now, to make sure that the coolest heads prevail. and i want to really give a shout out to the portland police bureau for their professionalism and also the organizers of occupy portland, who worked really hard as well to keep the peace. >> we feel strong that this community supports us. and we feel -- i'm sorry, i should say that i can't speak on behalf of occupy portland, i can only speak on behalf of myself, but i feel like i am extremely disappointed that the mayor chose to crack down on these parks when the outpouring of support from the community was so strong and clearly in favor of occupy portland. >> let me tell you that cnn is closely monitoring the situation in portland and elsewhere. we will bring you the very latest tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern. those are live pictures now that you're looking from our affiliate, koin. those are from portland, oregon. as we said, we are monitoring these. that's a reporter that's standing there. she's reporting on this. let's see what she's asking them real quick. okay. she is doing a mic check, as the occupy people do all the time when they do that mic check, and then someone else responds. but, anyone, let's just look at the live more and let our viewers know that we're monitoring the situation. we had the mayor on and there was a standoff between police and the occupy people a short time ago. in fact, police said that they were taunting them in some way when they closed a park down and also closed the street. so, again, we will continue to follow that and the situation elsewhere around the country when it comes to the occupy movement. international news now, we want to go to. a meeting to decide the future of afghanistan is vulnerable to attack. that's according to the taliban. the militant group says it has secret documents explaining how tribal elders will be protected at the critical gathering in kabul this week. the taliban that long threatened to disrupt that meeting. afghan authorities say the threat is nothing more than lies and propaganda. an ambush in the capital could be a crushing blow to the war effort. tribal leaders are expected to discuss afghanistan's long-term relationship with the united states and possible peace talks with the taliban. the penn state scandal has re-opened a lot of old wounds. coming up after the break, a regular guest right here in the "cnn newsroom" reveals for the first time her own abuse as a child. you don't want to miss it. okay. you know, i'd like you guys to sit down if you're at home, if you're doing something, and watch this next segment, please. the child sex abuse tragedy that's rocked penn state is bringing back painful memories for many people who have suffered abuse themselves. last night i talked with tony rogers, a brave abuse survivor, who decided to tell his story publicly to raise awareness and help other victims. how old were you when you were abused? >> the first time i was 9 and it was by a stranger. and the second time i was 11, i was sexually assaulted by one of my male cousins. >> so this story resonates with you, because you're around the same age as some of the alleged victims. when you heard about penn state, what did you do? what did you think? >> i really felt for the boys who were victimized by the assaults. and you know, especially, also for the witness, who actually witnessed it and reported it and nothing was ever done. and it's unfortunate that the coach's popularity preceded, you know, support for these people. >> does it bring anything up in you, does it remind you of anything? is there anything that you have to do -- does it trigger anything, i guess, is a better way of putting it? >> these stories are always triggering the person who assaulted me and even my own aunt. she decided to support her son instead of really listening to me and getting me help that i needed. and it's always triggering, but when it pops up, i just make sure i use the tools just to help myself from recovering from listening to these kind of stories in the news. it's very triggering. sometimes it's cold drinks. i was infected with gonorrhea when i was 9, so i had to drink penicillin and i would vomit. sometimes when i drink cold beverages, it makes me sick. >> since you had this opportunity, tony, is there anything you want to say to the country, to the people who are watching about the silence with this issue? >> i think it's important when a child speaks up or when people are witnesses to a child being hurt that they really speak up and seek help and advocate for the child. and sexual crimes are a violation of the human spirit. i equate it to murder. so if you are watching this, you're watching a homicide. please help children get support and help and end it. >> there you go. rodgers says abuse victims can move on with their lives, they just need to surround theirselves with people who support them and face what happened head on instead of trying to pretend it never occurred. all right. for more now on this subject is goldie taylor. goldie's usually here talking politics with me, but tonight she's going to have a very special conversation and get more personal with me, because she has told her mother that she has kept something hidden from her for a very long time. you had a conversation with your mom today because of this story? >> because of this story. yeah. it's been 26 years. the first incident, i was 4. then the next, i was 12. and then 16. when i was in high school in st. louis county, there was a football coach who w, i was a v cheerleader at the time, and he waited for girls to turn 16, because i think he believed it would keep him out of harm's way in terms of statutory rape. but he plied us with alcohol, with drugs and other things to make us susceptible. the abuse happened on school grounds. it happened off campus. and over a period of months, until i dropped out. >> so, goldie, we're going to continue on with the story, because that is not the end of it. there is more, sadly, to what goldie is saying happened to her. we're back in a moment with the rest of goldie's story. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much, i appreciate it, i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money ? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. no nonsense. just people sense. all right. i am back now with goldie taylor, who has been a journalist all of her life, a reporter, now the editor at thegrio.com and a political analyst as well. you've covered so much. but this penn state story is unlike anything goldie was sharing her story before. we have to say, this is not a cnn story, this is goldie's story, right? we're not reporting here. this is what goldie is saying happened to her. you said you were 4 -- you were 4. then again at 12, and then at 16. >> we lived in public housing when i was 4 years old. we lived in central city homes in east st. louis. and there was a young man in the complex who was a pied piper among children. so 4, 5, 6-year-olds, he was round us up. i don't remember a lot about it. i don't even remember his name. but i remember his face and i remember where he lived and i remember what he did to us. it's something i live with every day of my life. i think that predators like that pick children who they think are most vulnerable. children who come from single-parent homes, parents who can't be as attentive. parents who live in poverty, who work two and three jobs, who can't be as attentive. >> they groom the families as well. >> they groom and pick. and then when i was 12, a cousin, who was later charged with other crimes and went to jail. and then when i was 16. i was a varsity cheerleader in high school, and there was a football coach who i understand for legal reasons, we can't name. but he is -- he waited for us. and he picked young women around the same age, around the same height, complexion. you know, the women that i -- the young women that i knew in high school, we all looked alike. so this guy had an m.o.. >> when you say that, speaking to a friend who is a profiler for the fbi yesterday, and he did child sex crimes. and he says usually all the victims usually look alike, have the same traits, and once they get to a certain age where they no longer look like what he likes or she likes, because sometimes it's women, they let them go, right? >> sure. >> and the things you were saying, the triggers and all that, what they do about grooming the families, and people are afraid to talk about it. if you listen to the young man, mr. rodgers, who was on before you, he said even his own aunt wouldn't believe. >> right. >> family members won't believe. then the victims say, i'm not going to tell because nobody's going to believe me. did you think that? >> i never said anything, because i didn't, one, think, that my parents would believe me, that my schoolteachers would believe me. and the women that i did see come out, they were wholesale blamed for the behavior. i had a great friend of mine who said this happened to her as a child. and her mother blamed her. said, what did you do to provoke him? and so that kind of wholesale shaming keeps people, young boys, young girls alike, from coming forward. and i think that is a culture of enabling. you know, watching the penn state story struck me in such a personal way, that there were adults who knew or suspected or outright witnessed the behavior that happened at that college -- >> witnessed rape. >> witnesses rape. >> yeah. >> and thought so much of their own lives, thought so much of their own jobs that they wouldn't get on the phone and call child welfare. >> here's the thing that even after that, okay, i understand that that happened. it happened, it was wrong -- and again, these are all allegations. >> absolutely. >> i should say alleged, whatever, but after it happened, i have people who have reached out to me on e-mail and twitter and facebook and said, oh, why are you saying about the football team and oh, they shouldn't be, and it's like -- this is not about football. >> it's not about football. >> it's not about punishing, if a game is canceled or a team has to face some sanctions or whatever, that's not a punishment. >> anytime that we put football or a job -- >> any sport or anything. >> -- in front of child rape -- because it's not molestation, it's rape. >> it's continuing the cycle of abuse and violence by burying your head in the sand. and until someone says, this is more important. a child's life and well-being is more important than any sort of pageantry about anything, then, you won't get the message. nobody's going to get the message. >> nobody's going to get the message. so what i hope, by telling my story, by the penn state story coming out, by other people on twitter, and i just -- i have to say, thank you to my twitter followers tonight, because they've stood up and they've stood out for me tonight. so i say thank you to those people. but you know, until we're able to have an honest conversation about what's happening in the village that we call this country, you know, i think that we're going to be in a very, very tough place, until children feel safe. >> we've got to run. but i think you're very brave for sharing this. >> i think you are very brave. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. we're back in a moment. with thermacare heatwraps. thermacare 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yesterday with heads of state. he met with the leadership of japan, of russia, of china. but today was the summit. he gave opening remarks, emphasizing the importance of the asia pacific region economically to the u.s. when you look at where economic growth is, asia is really where it's at. and one of the u.s. goals is to continue, to continue increasing its exports, and it's asia, don, that is buying. so you heard president obama certainly pushing a new sort of era in foreign policy, de-emphasizing the middle east. as you see the troops leaving iraq, winding down the operation in afghanistan. now he's trying to turn the focus to asia and trying to make the case for american jobs that would be created by increasing commerce with asia pacific nations, don. >> and brianna, i understand the world leaders are gathering right now. i think they're going to do, as they call it, the class photo from this one. let's look at -- there we go. >> reporter: the family photo. >> there