-- paying it. >> on the point about new york teachers, governor cuomo is saying get vaccinated or do testing. and then you have the union coming out and saying, yeah, that's what they're going to do. he's also urging private businesses, though, to mandate the vaccine, so you're getting these different stories. you see politicians making a calculation here. and that's happening on the left too. what do you say to that? >> i do. and i say they're miscalculating. stop putting the burden on the private sector to carry the vaccine mandates. they should do that. and i'm proud that many companies and restaurants are starting to do that now. but government has lined up in the wrong part of this debate. it keeps coming down on the side of testing and masking. testing and masking are great breathers, only one thing that's going to work us out of this, protect the economy, reopen the schools, get us back to normal, it's vaccination. and we've got to push that as a requirement and make sure that we know who is vaccinated.
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