doing their own internal investigation and have received information from external sources. who knows what that is, but it's a bread crumb and it sounds juicy. >> they say they have a conflict of interest. what else does that mean? >> go ahead. >> the potential conflict of interest is that the accountants are now witnesses against the trump organization. that they are putting -- >> against their client. >> that they're in a position where they are testifying either in the civil investigation or the criminal investigation or both where they are providing information that's damaging to their client and you can't represent a client when you are presenting damaging information about them. >> we know they have been before the grand jury. just to nerd out for two seconds because something that george conway flagged on twitter, in the corner of the letter that was produced by the attorney general's office the one from the accountants, you'll see a stamp in the corner. that stamp is what you use in litigation to show -- there it