people inside the why is house. this is one of the things that secretary rice said. i see a state of conflict between the foreign policy professionals and someone in rudy giuliani who said he was acting on behalf of the president, but frankly i don't even know the degree to which that's the case. it's troubling. it's deeply troubling and she also criticized on its face the phone call between president trump and the president of ukraine. >> i think the more -- look, we know how president trump will handle criticism from folks like condy rice, which is he's going to say these are people who are against me. she did try to help him early on in the administration. i just think it becomes the more republicans are openly saying there was a problem with this phone call, the president doesn't want republicans arguing process. we have heard this over and over from people in contact with him and people in congress. he doesn't want the process argument that they've been making which is they don't like how democrats have handled the hearings. there were selective leaks in their words about details from these hearing transcripts.