testimony about a continuum. how the demand increased over time. and he said it kept getting more insidious as the timeline went on. he details that in his testimony. sondland, he's going to go down in history for these two words. call me. this gets to his credibility problem. they asked sondland, what did you mean by that? i'm more of a face-to-face guy. problem is he's texting all over the place. the reason he's not texting here is he doesn't want an electronic record of this. he said i knew about burisma but i didn't know there was a biden connection. and of course he had to supplement his testimony for the wee important detail that, oh, there was a quid pro quo. so he's a credibility mess. sort of cuts both ways. >> so taylor and marie yovanovitch, they are going to be the public witnesses next week. what does she got? >> marie yovanovitch has this cloak and dagger tale about how she was pushed out as ambassador to the ukraine.