harris here, people kind of understand what elizabeth warren's -- her vision in, what her values are even if they don't know the nitty-gritty of all of the policies. they understand that to some extent, biden to some extent. for harris, her policies on health care have wobbled a little bit and she's gone back and forth on busing. it's a little bit hard to understand what's motivating her, what her vision is for the country. >> catherine, let me stick with you. the economy. i want you to set what you believe the goals of powell is going to be. markets around the world will be watching. >> they'll be hanging on every word to look for clues for what they're going to do with interest rates. if i had to guess, he has two objectives. say here are the good things, you know, because confidence matters. but also if things go bad, if it turns out our confidence is overstated, we will be there to