i'd imagine there could be a treasure trove of information just be speaking to some of these witnesses. i mean, what do you make of that? >> yes, there would be an enormous amount of information because we have to remember, these agents are with the president of the united states at all times. they hear a lot of his most intimate discussions with his advisers and other people. and i think there's been a tradition in america, we kind of view them differently than regular government employees. you know, they were -- i'm thinking back to the kennedy assassination and talking about how a secret service agent was throwing himself in front of the bullets aimed at president kennedy. there's always been an emphasis on loyalty to a sitting president. but now when you have them testifying in front of congress, you realize the secret service's role is different. different in this way. if the president is engaging in illegal conduct, then secret service agents just become