we can not think of something like 20 years ago like something many the past. >> yeah, 20 years ago next sunday and we have with us lieutenant and tom and lou enforcement analyst. i want to start with you tom. according to investigators this man said that he believed isis wanted him to detonate a truck bond. no direct contact with the group. is this proving that this slick strategy is working? is this the pattern? >> yes, it's proving it. he was recruited indirectly over the internet by the websites. fortunately in this case last year we posted on facebook that he wanted to commit and go nout the place of glory and take high ranking military officers.