destroying their space. to destroy their space you have to have a process, a political process, like it or not in syria, that means there will be some international coalition that owns space once you retake it. you can bomb all you want. my question is who will take over that space once you bomb it and clear it from isis? the easy answer is bomb the hell out of them. my answer is you have to get to the hard question. what's the political process to ensure when you bomb the hell out of them, who is sitting on the grounded to take on that space? >> that's the problem we have in afghanistan and iraq. that's the concern we have in yemen. you go in there, slap people around, then you leave a vacuum. do you think that right now that part of the plan is where it needs to be? >> well, i mean, that's the concern, the potential vacuum even after you make progress against isis. but i think there's just one big alarming fact here. it's theç fact there's a lack