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issue. it's going to be about the optics of the transparency right? >> yeah. and you don't make mistakes this big. i mean this is not some mom and pop foundation which he's trying to say, well we did it right last time and we messed up this time. we weren't hiding anything. the biggest threat to hillary clinton's campaign is people not trusting her and not feeling like she's been honest and open and transparent on these issues. and when you say, oh it was an accident we didn't mean to and people make mistakes and, you know we're fixing it. i don't think people buy it when it looks like you're trying to limit the amount of knowledge -- >> that said you've got to find something that sticks. you can't just keep asking the questions and not like any of the answers. at some point you have to have some proof. >> that's right. if you've worked in politics never underestimate the power of human error. >> bill clinton can attest to that i agree. >> exactly. but look the problem really is with the foreign donors that aren't declared i mean the problem as peter said it's a

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