enjoy a turkey pardoning is something else to talk about. >> they don't feed a defense. these are teenage kids desperate to be like their friends. they have been put in a very artificial set of circumstanceles. it's a great privilege for the family to observe. they're dealing with that. it's so cool to see a turkey get pardoned. not when all you want to be is normal. do youp to change your brand, say this is the worst thing eve ever. >> i think you are exactly right. >> i think she's not good at her job. >> she's awful at her job, actual actually. >> she's like a hate chairman. here we are.