optimistic. >> yeah. >> debra, what do you make of kind of the legal situation and the battle you guys are facing going forward? as we know, time is of the essence for madelynn. how quickly do you think we'll have a decision on this? >> well, i think madelynn's case is a very vivid illustration of why these discriminatory laws have to be strug down, and so we want to move forward, you know, as quickly as possible to get a ruling that would allow madelynn's ashes to be interred with her spouses upon her death. >> have you considered the what if, what you'll do or what you'll wishes will be if you don't win this challenge and it doesn't go in your favor? >> we've already set up a system for my pastor to take care of

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