if the transponder was off, this is a military target. >> let me ask you about that 12,000 foot descent or to 12,000 feet. it also would put you below the heavily traveled traffic route, correct? so that speaks to somebody who is an aviator at the helm, correct? >> when you have this sort of situation, the first thing you're supposed to do is get down and take a left turn or right turn off of the air way where there might be other traffic. so you're going to get out of the way and you're going to get down. in this case one more step, you want to get back toward land. that is what we're seeing with this report. you know, obviously we have to wut t-- put the caveat that we'e had a lot of dead ends but this