he had no control over this child. he never knew this child, never met this child. this child didn't even exist as far as he knew. >> right. >> it wasn't until 2010 that monsignor lynn even learned that this child had been abused back in 1998. >> let's take up that part of it. >> the parameters -- >> i hear you on the law. not here to debate you about the law. it seems like the law was misapplied here. that's why the appeal manuel sa -- panel said what it did. we'll let the courts deal with that part. >> clearly. >> the priest in question, avery, had admitted to things that it was known, that he was moved as a result of what he had already admitted to and that your client allowed that to happen. whether or not the law fits, that was kuzed in this case, isn't that something that deserves criminal responsibility after everything we've learned about the church scandal? >> well, wait a minute. a law is the law. i mean, if there is a law that