and then that's pretty much all i heard. i did hear names. i heard a name, and that name was, he goes by buster murdaugh. >> i went to school with buster. and when we were younger, stephen played baseball with buster and a few classmates. and buster's grandfather and dad were the coaches of the team. he was, how do i put it, like you could tell he had money by the way he acted, and like privileged but not like a snobby, privileged person. he was quiet when i was around him. >> i don't really know buster that well. i mean, we see him, you know, whenever he's down with john or that sort of thing. >> that's very rare. >> right. i mean, i haven't had conversations about his life