there's an environment of fairness of officers that has to do a difficult job as well too. >> sure. kate, it should be noted that the prosecutor in the case said there were five other officers indicted. now they were supervisors and they were indicted for dereliction of duty, a staungsally minor charge than what brelo was going after and, of course, based upon the chase ensuing to begin with, because was it proper protocol, of course the prosecution says no and as a result of that chase many things happened that didn't need to happen. of course the end result, two people died. >> this isn't the only very sensitive, highly punily sized case that this city is dealing with. that's going to be -- they're dealing with another case involving tamir rice 12-year-old black boy, toy gun, shot and killed by white police officers. there's surveillance video of that. that's another case that city is dealing with and so that is -- speaks -- when you talk about the supper visors charged, you