part of the interrogation, there's nothing wrong with doing that. >> just so i'm entirely clear. the rules of the interrogation process on board that ship is governed by whom? >> by us. >> and when you say us, which department of us? the united states of america? >> the united states of america. the intelligence gathering agencies. with it's those associated with the department of defense, whether it's the cia or some combination or combination that includes the fbi. the fbi is now an intelligence gathering organization. in addition to a law enforcement organization. >> and bob bair, as a cia operative yourself, i know you've been present for some of these interrogations, et cetera. you've been listening to judge mukasey outlining the conditions on the ship where khattalah currently is. can you walk me through some of the things that are likely going on right now, the kinds of questions, the kind of circumstance he's in? >> he'll probably be confronted by i'd say a dozen people asking