judge pastor. that was one individual. and i was at the sentencing hearing. and i believe that that statement was orchestrated for a live television audience. he was quite harsh. i disagree with his per. >> understandably you disagree but it's record and it would come up in any hearing because it's the judge who originally would hear the application to get a medical license back and dr. murray would have to be cross-examined which means his orders would be on the record and they could come into any appeal. don't you find this a very trickoff wicket to be in? >> gosh, that's a hard question because a medical board proceeding is an administrative hearing, not a court proceeding. and the sentencing, what happened at the sentencing isn't evidence. that was just the judge's commentary. the medical board proceeding looks at what occurred and we believe that the evidence does not support what the prosecution