you still have to have the right work ethic and have to have some luck, maybe nepotism, maybe connections in order to succeed. particularly real estate, you got to be likeable and persuasive. if you don't have the tools, you're not going to be able to sell anything. i'm not a lawyer, but i don't know how you prove whether this is something that he is being misleading on or not. either you can sell or you don't. he's saying, look, i'm given the tools, guys. you know -- >> the $39,000 on a trump university education only to find out these were apparently failed teachers that weren't experts but had come out of their own bankruptcy and pale real estate ventures, i'd be ticked off. >> new york has strict consumer protection laws. >> that's what it comes down to. >> the attorney general's had a good record of going against other companies that do similar things. so we'll have to see how this plays out in court. >> there's a settlement. he says we refuse to -- >> make it like santa claus at the mall. they sit there, sit in your lap, take a picture and move on. how hard is that? >> goofy. joe, thank you very much. nice to see you. paul, stick around. you're not done yet.