told. that's fascinating what you're saying there again, the book is called white poverty. how exposing myths about race and class can reconstruct american democracy. reverend dr. william barber. thank you very much for joining us thank you and thank you for watching news night. laura coates live starts right now tonight a. >> new batch of secretly reported audio supreme court justice samuel alito, the activists behind the reporting's will share it with us in just minutes from now, plus, hunter biden convicted the new reporting about the reaction from inside the trump campaign and say it ain't. so why joey chest that's reign as one of the top dogs at coney island is coming to an end. good evening anja lithosphere now i'll go good evening. >> i'm jim acosta and for laura coates on this busy tuesday night for months, donald trump and republicans have tried to make the case that there is a two tiered justice system one system of justice for trump and one for everybody else. there are tax goes something like this that the justice department is being weaponized against donald trump. and donald trump only at direction of president biden. never mind that trump and his allies are also claiming that biden is slipping mentally while at the same time orchestrating that conspiracy set that aside. just consider the trump-world allegation that biden is behind this plot. two persecute the former president just so you understand this is all done by biden and his people maybe as people more importantly, democrats across the slide they've crossed the line in which now the court system is a political weapon. this department of justice, the biden department of justice he is the most partisan department of justice in our nation's history today that same biden department of justice secured a conviction against the president's son, hunter, guilty on all three counts for lying about his drug use when he purchased a gun here is david weiss, the special counsel leading the case no one in this country is above the law. >> everyone must be accountable for their actions. i want to thank attorney general garland for providing the support necessary to fulfill our mission. >> that's why it's thanking the attorney general for ensuring that he has independence. the same attorney general that the former president and his allies have relentlessly accused without evidence of conspiring to get trump's today. some of those trump allies accused the biden administration of pursuing a conviction of hunter basically accusing the president of sacrificing his own son to continue that conspiracy. former trump white house adviser stephen miller posted this. take a look at this. the gun charges he says are a misdirection, don't be gasland. this is all about protecting joe biden don't be gaslight. indeed, new tonight, the new york times reports hunter biden's conviction not only undercuts trump's narrative, but also hurts his campaigns fundraising efforts, citing a person familiar, the time says, quote, there had been discussions about how much an acquittal of hunter biden would help mr. trump? potentially raising tens of millions of additional dollars as they plan to cite it as more evidence. the justice system was rigged oops it's an ai, democrats on the hill noted their response to the biden conviction was different. >> we're not here contesting the results. were not here trying to defund the fbi or the department of justice because we don't like the outcome of a of a given trial we respect the judicial process, which we respect the outcome of it for his part, president biden two, it says he accepts the outcome of the case, and we'll respect it. >> he issued that statement before he changed the schedule to be with his son, fleming fine. to wilmington, delaware, where he remains the night photographer. you can see right? they're capturing their embrace hey, shortly after the president landed on the tarmac. now i want to get to brandy harden, a criminal defense attorney, liam donovan, former national republican senatorial campaign committee aid and karen funny a cnn legal commentator. brandy, i so let's let's jump right into this. republicans still saying that doj is a big weapon but against them, does that hold up anymore? let's listen to a speaker johnson. he was talking to our manu raju and other reporters about this verdict will talk about the other side every case is different. >> and clearly the evidence is overwhelming here. i don't think that's the case and the trump trials and all the charges that have been brought again, obviously brought for political purposes. hunter biden is a separate instance separate instance. the speaker say separate incidents, and so i think, look, this convictions certainly undercuts the theory that there are two there's a two tier justice system in reality, there's not one system for donald trump in one system for other folks in reality, we see that this conviction stands that when the government sets their sights on you, when they think that you've committed a crime, they're gonna go after you and just like what happened here, a jury of your peers is going to listen, is going to figure out what happens. >> and here there was a guilty verdict yeah. >> and leon, the new york times, reporting that the trump campaign plan to raise millions of dollars off of 100 biden acquittal, i guess that's oh, well, i guess that's not gonna work out now what do you make of that? >> well, i mean, it's certainly makes sense if you're trying to play into the cynical idea that the system is rigged, that would certainly be prove it. >> i think well, with the punches though, if you start with that premise, then you can use that to any anything can come back and affirm that. so there's there's nothing that can prove the negative the system's not rigged, not a conviction of hunter biden. i mean, look, this would never should have gone to trial was supposed to be a plea deal. the plea deal fell apart. this also doesn't resolve because there's going to be a tax trial that comes up in september. it's just a mess. nobody's actually satisfied the president. but what do you sent through a tax trial to get help right? exactly what where does the conspiracy end? >> all the way up and then sanity begin? >> but here's this so cynical and discussing about that anybody who is dealt with addiction or it has people that they know deal with addiction it is a journey to stay clean, right? and the idea that the president would want to risk his child sobriety for the presidency. i get why in donald trump's mind that might make sense because that's how he thinks about things, right? is how do i work the angles to get the result i want, but the thought of joe biden doing that after again, i think what's important about today, i think about the contrast here you have a man who has this is a guy who has taken punches throughout his life. joe biden and he gets back up and he's resilient and he has figured out how to say, look, i love my son, but the law is the law versus trump, who acts like a spoiled brat, who just doesn't get his way yeah. >> i mean liam, the trump campaign saying in a statement, we put this up on screen. this trial has been nothing more than a distraction from the real crimes of the biden crime family and limb. >> people buy this stuff. >> i think there is a separate issue. i mean, truly if you look at this, this is kind of the it's the bragg case of the hunter charges. it really is small potatoes. i mean, i don't think republicans truly do believe there are other things that foot here they. haven't produced the goods though. they haven't been able to put together a case in the house of representatives that would that would be able to pursue this. i know that the oversight committee is tried, but there are big things that you're going to call the biden crime family. should you have are tied to the president, wears we're doing we're doing hot dogs later ron, those out. we'll look at for the nothing now, you know, that's why i think we are where we are. they talk a good game. they talk like there's going to be something else. but in reality, this is it. this is what they have. this is the case that they have and ultimately it's resulted in a conviction. yeah. and brandie, a juror ten, spoke to cnn about the decision all 12 jurors did agree that yes, he know and laying bought a gun when he was an attic or he was addicted to drugs yeah. i know everything gets thrown into the political meat grinder in dc. but again, this is further validation of the jury system that we have in this country. it's, it's not perfect. it's flawed. our justice system is why there's no doubt about that but in the trump case, you had a jury of men and women doing their job, doing their civic duty. they came to a verdict. they issued that verdict. >> same in this case, saving this point in new york one and delaware, you know, it's really important that we rely on the jury system. i mean, we call it a jury of your peers, whether it's actually your peers or not, it's 12 people who listen to the evidence and make get decision. one of the things that i think is so problematic here though, is that why is this? i mean, you shouldn't be able to lie on an application, but with respect to whether or not he was addicted, i mean, that just takes it another step and i think it's sad that he was struggling with addiction is sad ultimately that he said what he said on the application, but i do think that the jury system i'm has 12 people decide what the evidence is and i listened to what the juror said the jury seem to say the fact that he's in the biden family had nothing to do with the case although in reality, everyone knew it was joe biden son and so even if it was in the back of their minds, they may have been at the front of their mind, but certainly it was something that everyone was aware of apparently it didn't, impact the verdict. >> this ties back to this larger theme about democracy that we've been talking about, right? because there is a part of democracy that is a leap of faith. you have to have a leap of faith that you go into the system 12 people are going to listen to the evidence and make a decision and you abide by that decision, you have a right to appeal, you have a right, you write, you have plenty of rights, under house that hunter has that right there's rather, you know, exactly. and so but that's democracy that and when some of the commentary that we're seeing from republican let's the whole fact that the trump campaign initially put out a statement that had sympathy for hunter and then pull that back. i mean, all that does is undermine people's belief in our democracy and in our systems at a time when we actually should be reaffirming into your point, it's not perfect. there's so much work we need to do. but this is our system and we've got to work with it. and by undermining it actually makes us less safe as a country tree. and the jury system works. i mean, at the end of the day and we're gonna for a long time, it worked and so regardless of how perfect it is, one way or the other, 12 people look at the evidence, they listen, sometimes say they get it wrong, sometimes they get it right, but the jury system works and leave just very quickly. there's a bob menendez trial going on henry cuellar trial going i mean, there are other trials of prominent democrats going on right now. >> i think the tricky part is and you're exactly right, but i think the tricky part is if you look at these piecemeal, you can say, well, this just proves the democrats are corrupt in this case of menendez or whomever. i think the tricky part is, as you say, i think there is trust in these institutions. but when we start to, when we start to talk about the supreme court, we start to talk about judge cannon and we pick apart things that maybe it looks like it's not on the level in other areas. i think it's hard to make these cases that we need to trust in the system if we're not bringing that across the board fair point, our guys, thank you very much. >> great discussion. i appreciate it tonight the bidens are huddling together in their delaware home to be with their son, hunter and addressing the verdict, the president said he could relate to families who have had loved ones battling addiction, saying quote, i am the president, but i am also a dad, jill, and i love our son and we are so proud of the man and he is today and chris whipple joins me now he's the author of the fight of his life inside joe biden's white house chris good to see you. i see you studied the bidens for a long time. how painful is this moment for the president yeah, i think it's extremely painful, just heart wrenching and it's impossible to overstate date just how close joe and hunter biden arnon it goes all the way back to that horrific car crash in 1972, which hunter and beau barely survived. it's the reason why we've been seeing him holding him close through throughout the trial and jill biden has been there and why you see these continuing statements of support? i mean, i think that for joe biden, this is a personal tragedy at a political windfall because i think that politically, i just don't see any downside soup so many people, so many americans can relate to a father, loving and supporting his son why? >> and chris, we were talking about this new york times piece that's out this evening where the trump campaign has sort of analyze this various different ways of how a biden acquittal or conviction might play out. one of the things that says in that story is that the former president has been talking about hunter biden a whole lot less out on the campaign trail in part because the former president thinks that there's some sympathy out there for the current president because of what his son has been going through. and it is worth reminding our viewers just how much tragedy, personal tragedy, the president, the united states has endured over his life. and it has shaped him. it's made him the man he is. >> now. it's absolutely true and i think that look, i think a lot of the joe biden's advisers are keeping a close eye on him, not because they're worried about the political fallout as i say, i think that's nothing but upside, but i think they're just worried about him personally. they're worried about having to shoulder this on top of the burdens of the presidency. this is a guy who's got a lot of stuff on his plate but again, politically, i think there's no downside. i thought so even before the verdict and after the verdict, even more so because the guilty verdict gives the lie to the notion that joe biden is some kind of puppeteer who weaponized as the department of justice punishing his enemies it's and freeing his friends, obviously hundred biden never would have seen the inside of a courtroom if that were the case. and i think luck we've got a debate coming up and i don't think joe biden, would ever go there. i don't think he'll bring it up but let me tell you if donald trump is makes the mistake of going there and spewing nonsense about the biden crime family. i think joe will be prepared. mean can you imagine if that happened? joe biden saying, look, last time i checked you were guilty of 34 felonies i'm guilty of loving my son yeah. >> and chris, the president, has said that he will not pardon his son. what did you think of that? >> i thought it was extraordinary. i mean, it was it was a moment of just moral clarity on the part of joe biden and couldn't have been in starker contrast to the way donald trump has handled his own conviction so i think it was extraordinary when he was asked will you will you accept the verdict, whatever it is? he said? yes. >> would you and then again, what would you rule out a pardon? yes. >> you can't be much more clear than that. >> all right. for swivel a great discussion. thanks so much for your time. really appreciate it. good to be with you as we were saying earlier, new audio of supreme court justice samuel alito bashing the courts critics, the activists releasing these tapes this audio is here to walk us through it. that's next. say what the assignments are going off. >> the tornado here you cannot swim you cannot outlet on it. it really doesn't. terrifying experience. >> it is a stuff of nightmares. >> you just hear and feel it nick eyes and my throat or brain i'm thinking i'm going to die and i thought that was it earth with liev schreiber, sunday at nine on cnn dad is a legends and his legendary moves might be passed down to you ancestry dna can show you which traits were inherited. where they came from and who he shares them with but get moving. the sale is only for a limited time. >> how do you keep your teeth so white with all the coffee you drink? 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