do you believe dmominion was engaged in a coordinated effort to steal the presidential election. no. have you seen credible evidence to suggest dominion was involve ed to steal the election? no. have you ever believed that dominion was engaged in a coordinated effort to steal the 2020 presidential election? no. so he makes -- that's the ceo making clear he knew what was being saud on air repeatedly was horse manure. is that defamation or protected somehow? >> i don't know i would say he's protect ed. that's great evidence for dominion. because the standard is high in defamation. you have to prove malice that they knew what they were putting on the air is false. you see so many examples. you have the chairman stops with hum saying, i didn't believe it. and they have an incentive to lie. why? ratings, and as admitted, money. >> it's fascinating how the case plays out. we all know good people who work